Global Kids' Online Leadership Program

[18:11] Schmilsson Nilsson: Everyone can hear Julia Stasch?
[18:12] Meredith Snookums: yes here
[18:12] Abaris Brautigan: I can...
[18:12] Frans Charming nods
[18:12] Anna Annenberg: I've got audio
[18:12] Ivy Innis: i can
[18:12] PsyBorg Leonov: no audio here
[18:12] Anna Annenberg: PsyBorg, do you have video?
[18:13] Schmilsson Nilsson: Video is working for me.
[18:14] Tara5 Oh too
[18:14] Titian Littlething: /in the us
[18:17] Abaris Brautigan: Will the Jenkins essay be available online somewhere? Can you provide a link please?
[18:17] Tori Annenberg: Will all of you here let us know where your are from and if you are here with an institution, which one?
[18:18] Tori Annenberg: Yes I will provide a link from our web. :)
[18:18] Tori Annenberg: uscpublicdiplomacy.org
[18:19] Ring Talaj: Hi, Tori, all. Ring Talaj, here from City College and the New York City Department of Education.
[18:20] Tori Annenberg: Thanks Ring.
[18:20] Tori Annenberg: Others?
[18:20] Rissa Maidstone: Kim Smith with CMP out of Seattle.
[18:20] Meredith Snookums: Meredith Snookumns from University of Delaware
[18:20] Ivy Innis: Ivy Innis, from Bard College MAT, NY
[18:21] PsyBorg Leonov: Psyborg Leonov from Venus
[18:21] Frans Charming: Jeroen Frans from The Vesuvius Group
[18:21] Ozma Malibu: Sandy Andrews, ASU Applied Learning Technologies Institute *and the Nonprofit Commons in SL
[18:22] Schmilsson Nilsson: Welcome Ozma!
[18:22] Titian Littlething: Arlene Shipley - AngelHEROS sl and rl
[18:23] Rhiannon Chatnoir works for Global Kids, is the editor of and runs their blog http://www.holymeatballs.org
[18:25] Tori Annenberg: Thank you alll!!
[18:27] Griffin Wrigglesworth: Tim Rayworth from Massachusetts Env Ed Society
[18:29] Titian Littlething: /what was this mans name/
[18:32] Tori Annenberg: This is Doug Thomas, professor at USC
[18:33] Titian Littlething: /ty torry
[18:34] Tori Annenberg: moderated by Jim Steyer, CEO and founder of Common Sense Media
[18:35] Tori Annenberg: Has anyone here delt with these issues?
[18:36] Titian Littlething: /raises hand
[18:38] No room to sit here, try another spot.
[18:39] Larysa Freenote: / text Educational Technology Specialist
[18:40] Binara Takashi: ...
[18:43] Binara Takashi: have they gotten to SL's stuff yet?
[18:43] Meredith Snookums: not yet
[18:44] Binara Takashi: ok
[18:44] You: not yet, Barry Joseph is next to speak.. and he will on that
[18:45] Binara Takashi: Well, 13 year olds shouldn't be on SL, it's mainly for adults
[18:45] Binara Takashi raises hand
[18:45] Binara Takashi: but some of the teens like to sneak through the barrier
[18:46] Tori Annenberg: For your records - Yasmin Kafai spoke first from UCLA and this is Barry Joseph from Global Kids.
[18:46] Rhiannon Chatnoir is filming machinima of Barry talking about machinima... meta :P
[18:48] Morris Dawes: ah....made it
[18:50] Binara Takashi: who's taking all the pics?
[18:50] Frizzy Lisle: /sit
[18:50] Tara5 Oh Binara!
[18:50] Binara Takashi: ...
[18:50] Binara Takashi stares at the screen
[18:50] Tara5 Oh: / me
[18:51] Tara5 Oh: /hard to get a nice screen shot in SL!
[18:52] Tara5 Oh: /actually many people taking pics it seems!
[18:52] Frans Charming: /=D yep
[18:53] MonicaMarlo Martinek: nice back of the head shot. :)
[18:53] Binara Takashi: she's in front of the cam
[18:57] Larysa Freenote: Great question!
[18:57] Binara Takashi: Dude, literacy is a good thing!
[18:59] Tori Annenberg: Thoughts to this?
[19:00] Tutti Barbosa: i'm in the amphitheater
[19:00] Frans Charming: Well.. voice is becoming a standard in vw and games very rapidly.
[19:00] Binara Takashi: Well, the virtual worlds have an outlet for social interaction
[19:00] MonicaMarlo Martinek: yeah but not great quality voice yet, and that matters.
[19:00] Stargazer Blazer: Likeminded people are able to meet up with each other
[19:00] Ozma Malibu: Binara, I love your remark "literacy is a good thing"
[19:00] Frizzy Lisle: i don't see the media tab
[19:01] Stargazer Blazer: regardless of geography or other physical prejudices
[19:01] Binara Takashi: ^_^
[19:01] Griffin Wrigglesworth: If voice is incorporated, then at least inflection is there- up to 75% of communication is carried through non-verbal cues...
[19:01] You: I agree with that... that you are able to connect with others irregardless of geography
[19:01] Dirk DaSilva: not seeing mediatab either
[19:01] Stargazer Blazer: People can communicate about Who they are, the physical becomes less important
[19:01] You: Adam Aberman spoke at SLCC one on one of the non profit panels
[19:02] Binara Takashi: well, text doesn't go away...
[19:02] Stargazer Blazer: It is different, not necessarily a bad thing.
[19:03] Stargazer Blazer: they are reading and writing in a social context, isnt' more reading and writing a good thing?
[19:03] Binara Takashi yawns
[19:04] You: and problem solving, working on social ineraction skills in other ways.. tons of useful skills
[19:04] Binara Takashi: I hate getting up early in the morning and not getting a nap
[19:04] Dirk DaSilva thinks that's one way of getting people to look at your profile
[19:04] Stargazer Blazer: The need to connect, it doesn't go away just because we shelter our children from the "outside world"
[19:05] Griffin Wrigglesworth: R U sure this m8kes for literate kids?
[19:05] Binara Takashi: Well, once that kid gets out on his/her own, being sheltered becomes shell shock.
[19:06] Stargazer Blazer: if you can read and write, is that what you mean by literate?
[19:06] PsyBorg Leonov: hoo is liter8 these days?
[19:06] Titian Littlething: egg actly ;))
[19:06] Griffin Wrigglesworth: :)
[19:06] Binara Takashi: somewhat. at least it's better than some chatrooms they could be learning leet in.
[19:06] Stargazer Blazer: Spelling and literacy are two different things.
[19:07] Titian Littlething: im literate - in typo ;))
[19:07] MonicaMarlo Martinek: but to use l337, you have to have a pretty strong command of what you're changing..... hmm.. is that so bad?
[19:07] PsyBorg Leonov: digerate perhaps, but letters and reading have morphed
[19:08] Stargazer Blazer: me too, I can understand what you are saying... but what about people for whom English is a second language?
[19:08] PsyBorg Leonov: I speak "typonese" quite well now
[19:08] Binara Takashi: I really hate chatspeak
[19:08] Ozma Malibu: Isn't this just a different sort of language. Still literacy, still communication. Trent Batson at Gallaudet said that this sort of communication is closer to living English, and easier for hearing impaired to learn
[19:08] MonicaMarlo Martinek: to each his own. :)
[19:08] Tori Annenberg: BTW - I'd like to invite all of you to join us in the MacArthur Foundation SL Eventsto receive info about events like this.
[19:08] Griffin Wrigglesworth: If literacy is the ability to communicate ideas, then this "Language" is superiorly efficient.
[19:08] Stargazer Blazer: and more accessible for people with hearing impairments
[19:09] Griffin Wrigglesworth: (Which make me virtually illiterate)
[19:09] Stargazer Blazer: not to mention other limitations
[19:11] Binara Takashi: I'd love to have an accredited uni here in SL offering classes
[19:11] MonicaMarlo Martinek: woot to that Binara~
[19:11] Dirk DaSilva: perhaps once LL makes sitting easier
[19:11] Stargazer Blazer: There are accredited unis offering classes in SL
[19:11] MonicaMarlo Martinek: snarf~
[19:11] You: you mean a free standing university solely offering classes via SL
[19:12] Binara Takashi: really? which unis? *wants to take a Japanese course on SL*
[19:12] You: yes, everyone from MIT, etc have taught classes in SL
[19:12] You: there are a few language focused educational groups
[19:12] You: a good resource if you are interested in educational related topics is to join the SL educational lists
[19:13] Claudia Linden: http://www.simteach.com/wiki/index.php?title=Institutions_and_Organizations_in_SL#UNIVERSITIES.2C_COLLEGES_.26_SCHOOLS
[19:13] Binara Takashi: I'd also love to take an arcaeology class
[19:14] Dirk DaSilva: I am quite serious.. sitting doesn't work in SL. That's level one. If they don't pay attention to the little things, why worry about anything else?
[19:14] You: SL would be a great medium in regards to archeology.. you could build up dig sites and hold excavations via scripted means.. would be great
[19:14] You: normally sitting does
[19:14] Dirk DaSilva: nope
[19:14] Dirk DaSilva: look
[19:14] Tori Annenberg: We've been aware of this, and were not able to get it fixed before this event.
[19:14] Binara Takashi drools over the idea of digging in an egyptian ruin
[19:14] Dirk DaSilva: "There is not suitable..."
[19:14] Dirk DaSilva: I understand
[19:14] Frans Charming: /we know Dirk it is wierd here. The builder should have tested and dropped some sit scripts in.
[19:15] You: the way these benches are built it doesn't allow for it easily, there is a script error
[19:15] Dirk DaSilva: it is not your fault
[19:15] Dirk DaSilva: LL has to show us users that they mean it
[19:15] Stargazer Blazer: my legs aren't tired :)
[19:15] Dirk DaSilva: the essentials have to work
[19:15] Dirk DaSilva: not just poseballs
[19:15] Dirk DaSilva: simple things
[19:15] Dirk DaSilva: sitting on benches
[19:15] Tori Annenberg: No worries -
[19:15] Dirk DaSilva: etc etc
[19:15] MonicaMarlo Martinek: besides, we can all fly- why do we need chairs? Is it helping our sense of presence here to sit, or are we adhering to tradition?
[19:15] Dirk DaSilva: Sitting lets us focus on the subject at hand.
[19:15] Frans Charming: /yea it is really annoying. especially because there was a time that sitting was working as you would expect
[19:15] Dirk DaSilva: Standing distracts. At least it does to me.
[19:16] Dirk DaSilva: Sitting simply cannot be this hard to implement correctly.
[19:16] You: I think there is something in that we take to things that are familiar in our virtual surroundings
[19:16] You: as they would be in RL
[19:16] Dirk DaSilva: Yes, and those RL things are important.
[19:16] Dirk DaSilva: If they where not we would be having this conversation on IRC.
[19:16] MonicaMarlo Martinek: I think I sit because I am used to coming into a learning space to sit and focus, but I'm not sure that isn't anything more than my conditioning....
[19:17] Binara Takashi: if anyone's coming in after this to here, I'm greeting 'em
[19:17] You: so everyone knows, there is also a companion event going on in the SL teen grid ... this is being broadcasted there and the teens are also discussing
[19:17] MonicaMarlo Martinek: good point! Gaming the system takes game ;)
[19:17] MonicaMarlo Martinek: would love to see teen transcripts.
[19:18] MonicaMarlo Martinek: or machinima :)
[19:18] Griffin Wrigglesworth: Any way to get the chatlog from the teen grid?
[19:18] Binara Takashi: hehe
[19:18] MonicaMarlo Martinek: booyah!
[19:18] Ivy Innis: wiill that be on the blog?
[19:18] Meredith Snookums: I think some can be found on youtube. . the machinima
[19:18] You: well they should be saving them and all of the stuff we compile will be put up on our blog http://www.holymeatballs.org
[19:18] Meredith Snookums: from global kids
[19:18] MonicaMarlo Martinek: no I mean machinima of teens reaction to this talk.
[19:18] MonicaMarlo Martinek: how much we impose what we think vs what they know of themselves.
[19:19] MonicaMarlo Martinek: the snickers would tell a lot.
[19:19] Tori Annenberg: Yes, chat log will be available from both events.
[19:19] You: yes, we have at this point almost 2 years of posts, videos and information learned between that blog and the various other social media outlets we post to.. like YouTube
[19:20] You: that same thing happened with the very first contest that Global Kids ran in the teen space.. there became almost a cheat code that arose to help other teens solve the problems and get the rewards
[19:21] Frizzy Lisle: kids are amazing like that
[19:21] You: yes
[19:21] Tori Annenberg: Please feel free to stick around and chat about your experiences with some of these issues. We would love to share your experiences
[19:22] Ivy Innis: do you think that was because they were used to hints and cheats in gaming?
[19:22] Stargazer Blazer: heeh, they were forming community
[19:22] Ozma Malibu: im for anything that speeds learning
[19:22] You: I imagined it probably popped up cause it was a natural gaming thing to do
[19:22] Binara Takashi: a bit of altruism, eh?
[19:22] Stargazer Blazer: Teamwork and collaboration?
[19:23] Ozma Malibu: collaboration
[19:23] Ivy Innis: do they think of TSL as a game?
[19:23] Stargazer Blazer: And if you designed it right, they might actually learn something, hehe
[19:23] Ivy Innis: :-)
[19:23] You: no, but that event was a contest.. so I think that is why that became something to think of that way
[19:23] Ozma Malibu: That would be the goal stargazer :-)
[19:24] Ivy Innis: got it
[19:24] You: too bad they didnt have interaction the other way back.. would be great to have had questions or comments come from the teens to the panel
[19:24] Claudia Linden: yes. definitely
[19:24] Binara Takashi: and us
[19:25] Frizzy Lisle: yes. it could have been done with a projection screen
[19:25] Ivy Innis: tha would've been great (and us...)
[19:25] Stargazer Blazer claps
[19:25] Tori Annenberg: Transcripts and video will be available on our website: uscpublicdiplomacy.org
[19:25] Eureka Dejavu: excellent!
[19:25] Griffin Wrigglesworth: wouldhave been a neat bridge between teen and adult SL
[19:25] Binara Takashi smiles politely
[19:25] You: and also on the GLobal Kids blog
[19:25] Dirk DaSilva claps
[19:25] Tutti Barbosa: where do we go for the cocktails>
[19:25] Griffin Wrigglesworth: /Thanks all!
[19:25] Ozma Malibu: wonderful!
[19:25] Morris Dawes: Do we get cocktails?
[19:25] Meredith Snookums: thanks for making that possible - that was very good
[19:25] Tori Annenberg: YES! Also at GK!! :)
[19:26] You: we are about to release the first installment of our Second Life curriculum as well
[19:26] Frizzy Lisle: Thanks for offering this to us!
[19:26] Tara5 Oh: /great when should i look out for them (the transcripts!)
[19:26] MonicaMarlo Martinek: yeah, but drunk avatars just aren't as much fun.
[19:26] Ozma Malibu: yes
[19:26] You: so stay tuned to teh blog
[19:26] Tutti Barbosa: Xcellent
[19:26] Claudia Linden: thanks for hosting it here
[19:26] Binara Takashi: If anyone wants a cola, I've got a few
[19:26] Frizzy Lisle: blog?
[19:26] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: If anyone wants a OneWorld t-shirt, let me know.
[19:26] You: oh... and one last thing.. GLobal Kids is hiring.. another thing to look at if you visit the blog
[19:27] You: if you are an educator and interested in working with them on various programs that involve teens in NYC and in teen SL
[19:27] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: OneWorld will be holding daily SL events from the Bali climate change conference in December.
[19:27] Binara Takashi: Jeff, you don't have shoes
[19:27] You: http://www.holymeatballs.org for all of that
[19:27] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: shoes are overrated.
[19:27] Binara Takashi: but you don't want your foot accidentally stabbed, do ya?
[19:27] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: if people are interested in seeing how SL is being used to bring people together around climate change issues, check out Oneclimate.net
[19:28] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: I've got tough feet.
[19:28] Binara Takashi: some kind of Halfling then?
[19:28] Stargazer Blazer: A lot of issues raised here, not exclusive to kids either
[19:28] You: no
[19:28] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: something like that, Binara.
[19:29] Binara Takashi: a tallfellow
[19:29] Binara Takashi: ^_^
[19:29] You: some of these same thoughts on the merit of virtual space apply to many other educators, etc.
[19:29] Tutti Barbosa: ok, this has been great
[19:30] Rissa Maidstone: Thank you all!
[19:30] Rissa Maidstone: Great job.
[19:30] Schmilsson Nilsson: Thanks for coming Rissa!
[19:31] Rissa Maidstone: My pleasure.
[19:32] Ozma Malibu: Bye all, see you next time!
[19:32] You: if anyone wants to stick around we can informally chat about the presentation
[19:33] You have offered friendship to Frizzy Lisle
[19:34] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: I was particularly interested in flollowing up on the idea brought up near the end about non-profits using SL to further their missions.
[19:34] Tutti Barbosa: I like the fact that the presentation was more socially conscious
[19:34] You: there is a large coalition of various non profits called the Non-profit Commons ... which is spear headed by a group Tech Soup
[19:34] You: they are a great resource if you are interested in that
[19:35] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: yeah I've heard of it. I need to check it out.
[19:35] You: they meet weekly at 8:30 am (SLT) on Fridays in the Non-Profit commons
[19:35] Stargazer Blazer: The potential we have here to affect change in rl...
[19:35] You: I agree
[19:35] Tutti Barbosa: how about the socially-environmentally media campaign that microsoft emailed us today in hotmail?
[19:35] Ivy Innis: absolutely
[19:36] You: I originally was drawn to this space for the great artistic outlet it was.. but what kept me here was hte ability to connect and reach out to various causes and non-profits
[19:36] Griffin Wrigglesworth: I'm especially interested in the way SL can enhance, rather than replare RL experience. Any case-studies?
[19:36] You: MacArthur''s president a few months back did a mixed reality event here in SL about virtual philanthropy
[19:37] Binara Takashi: well, I'm anecdotal on that
[19:37] Binara Takashi: it helps me overcome my shyness
[19:38] Frans Charming: It has helped me a great deal too, Binara
[19:38] You: I am not sure if there are formal case studies.. but organizations like American Cancer Society have been able to engage many and successfully fundraise here.. and there are numerous support and educational outreach groups
[19:39] Tara5 Oh: oops sorry didn't mean t bump you!
[19:39] Stargazer Blazer: np :
[19:39] Stargazer Blazer: :)
[19:39] Griffin Wrigglesworth: oops. me neither.
[19:39] Stargazer Blazer: hehe, it's ok
[19:39] You: yup
[19:39] You: although it is funny how acutely we are aware of personal space even in a virtual world
[19:40] Stargazer Blazer: I have friends here who have rl disabilities and they love sl because they are treated like everyone else here
[19:40] You: yes
[19:40] Stargazer Blazer: Then there are some who bring their wheelchairs and prostetics in-world with them
[19:40] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: Is anyone here particularly interested in climate change? Let me know and I can tell you about how OneWorld is using SL and other networking tools to help galvanize action.
[19:41] You: i have met some amazing people who have blossomed in this space either for reasons liek taht or as was said in the presentation.. using it as a safe testing ground for personal growth
[19:41] You: cool, what are you doing here in SL
[19:41] Frizzy Lisle: I am interested in how kids interact in the teen grid with few adults around.
[19:41] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: we've got an island called OneClimate Island.
[19:41] You: the holymeatballs.org blog is a good place to find info on that Frizzy
[19:42] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: During December we'll be holding daily simulcasts of events from the UN negotiations in Bali on climate change.
[19:42] Frizzy Lisle: I will check it out.
[19:42] You: we even have an editorial system set up and the teens themselves blog about their experiences
[19:42] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: I'll be there with a colleague interviewing those taking part in the negotiations and holding interactive sessions in SL.
[19:43] Griffin Wrigglesworth: I work for an outdoor org and env educators who all feel competition with webby and other "indoor" stuff- I'm looking for ways to encourage connections b/t the indoor and outdoor realms
[19:43] You: great Jeffrey.. you should speak to Barry Joseph about seeing if some of that can be broadcast into the Teen SL space
[19:43] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: Anyone interested in climate change can come to our island and get connected to what's going on at the conference everyday.
[19:43] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: that's a great idea.
[19:43] Stargazer Blazer: what island?
[19:43] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: OneClimate Island
[19:43] You: his main grid avatar name is globalkids bixby for anyone here who would like to IM questions to him directly
[19:43] Griffin Wrigglesworth: Jeffery- I look forward to exploring there!
[19:44] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: Great, Griffin.
[19:44] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: We're just getting things polished up now.
[19:44] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: So they'll be ready for the beginning of the conference on Dec 3.
[19:44] You have offered friendship to JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear
[19:44] You: great
[19:45] Tutti Barbosa: which conference ... NMC? OR??
[19:45] You: and you should definitely check out the weekly non-profit commons meetings
[19:45] Frizzy Lisle: barry's grid avatar is global kids bixby?
[19:45] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: the big UN climate change conference in December in Bali.
[19:45] You: globalkids bixby
[19:45] Tutti Barbosa: ty
[19:45] Frizzy Lisle: HE seems to have a lot of energy
[19:45] You: the first is all one word
[19:47] Frizzy Lisle: Do you work with kids in rl too?
[19:47] You: yes
[19:47] You: started randomly when I ran across Barry in SL while he was initially thinking about how to use SL to run programs
[19:47] Griffin Wrigglesworth: / Frizzie Are you asking all of us?
[19:48] You: I think that was for me
[19:48] Frizzy Lisle: I was asking rhiannon
[19:48] Griffin Wrigglesworth: sorry...
[19:48] You: but yes I do
[19:48] Tori Annenberg: Thanks all! Have a good night.
[19:48] You: take care Tori.. tell everyone hello over there
[19:48] Tori Annenberg: will do :)
[19:48] You: say hi to Barry
[19:48] You: :P
[19:48] Frizzy Lisle: Good nite tori
[19:48] Frizzy Lisle: thanks
[19:48] Ivy Innis: thanks tori - this was good!
[19:48] Tori Annenberg: I'm so glad you enjoyed it!
[19:49] Tutti Barbosa: BYE
[19:49] You have offered friendship to Tutti Barbosa
[19:49] Tori Annenberg: We're trying to ask tough questions.
[19:49] Tori Annenberg: night.
[19:49] You: yes went well
[19:49] You: and glad some of stuck around to chat
[19:49] You: :)
[19:50] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: Rhiannon, do you work at GlobalKids?
[19:50] Stargazer Blazer: Yes, very interesting and engaging :)
[19:50] Stargazer Blazer: see you all later, thanks for the great conversation :)
[19:50] Frizzy Lisle: Well, I need to go but very nice to meet all of you. I enjoyed it very much.
[19:50] You: take care
[19:51] Stargazer Blazer: you too
[19:51] Tutti Barbosa: good night all
[19:51] You: and if any of you ever have questions.. feel free to IM me.
[19:52] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: and if anybody else wants to be kept informed about the climate change events taking place Dec 3-14, just give me your info (or friendship) and I'll make sure to be in touch.
[19:52] You: thanks jeffrey
[19:52] JeffreyOneWorld Runningbear: thank you, Rhiannon. This was a great event.
[19:52] Griffin Wrigglesworth: Please- I'm interested!
[19:52] Ivy Innis: thanks rhiannon, i was glad they did this on sl.
[19:53] You: yes worked well :)
[19:53] Tara5 Oh: Yes thanks a very interesting event
[19:53] Ivy Innis: take care all
[19:55] Griffin Wrigglesworth: Thank. Look forward to more another time. And maybe keeping the conversation up
[19:55] You: yes.. :)
[19:55] You: look to either website for the transcripts and video
[19:55] You: :)